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Title: Graphics in the Platformer?
Post by: geoff on May 25, 2013, 02:46 pm
http://www.youtube.com/v/NMSmwPtl7IM?hl=en_US&version=3

Check it ouuuutttt.... coming soon.
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Post by: marvelwilliam on May 25, 2013, 02:47 pm
OMFG!
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Post by: Red on May 25, 2013, 02:47 pm
Yes! Finally!
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Post by: Poke579 on May 25, 2013, 02:47 pm
Holy splode.
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Post by: mshaafay on May 25, 2013, 02:47 pm
We are becoming better than minecraft!
Title: Re: Graphics in the Platformer?
Post by: marvelwilliam on May 25, 2013, 02:48 pm
Good job Geoff!
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Post by: Him on May 25, 2013, 02:48 pm
Omg yes!
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Post by: Sploderepicbros on May 25, 2013, 02:48 pm
*hugs*

THANK YOU.
Title: Re: Graphics in the Platformer?
Post by: TheBlueGuy21 on May 25, 2013, 02:49 pm
I remember back in the day, when people thought graphics in the Platformer was impractical. Yes, good times...

This must have been a splode to code.
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Post by: marvelwilliam on May 25, 2013, 02:50 pm
Do they work on Weapons?
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Post by: Jmc10 on May 25, 2013, 02:50 pm
Holy crap. I love you geoff
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Post by: kittysocks on May 25, 2013, 02:51 pm
This bring on insane and epic types of scenery!
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Post by: mshaafay on May 25, 2013, 02:52 pm
Custom Enemies too!
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Post by: Rubber Ducky on May 25, 2013, 02:54 pm
I don't like it.
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Post by: Elroy on May 25, 2013, 02:55 pm
This is exactly what I'd need for my upcoming game projects. I've become inactive unfortunately due to lack of interest, but I think that a new platformer update like this would certainly help out, especially so soon before EGD.
Title: Re: Graphics in the Platformer?
Post by: Queen Probe on May 25, 2013, 02:55 pm
Release it soon, so I can actually add snakes for my riding the snake games 8)
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Post by: El Cielo Primo [Chloride] on May 25, 2013, 02:57 pm
NO!
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Post by: moolatycoon on May 25, 2013, 02:57 pm
=3
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Post by: lordeldar on May 25, 2013, 02:59 pm
OMG YES
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Post by: kittysocks on May 25, 2013, 02:59 pm
Milking and Chloride are irrelevant. =3
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Post by: Pythagoras on May 25, 2013, 02:59 pm
Yay but I might not use it
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Post by: Dudki on May 25, 2013, 02:59 pm
Custom tiles? Is this for real?!

OMFG I LOVE YOU GEOFF!
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Post by: alon on May 25, 2013, 03:00 pm
I can't wait! (I can, but it's just so awesome! xD)
Title: Re: Graphics in the Platformer?
Post by: alon on May 25, 2013, 03:01 pm
I don't like it.
NO!

Why? I think this is awesome. =/
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Post by: marvelwilliam on May 25, 2013, 03:01 pm
I don't like it.
(http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m5rb7aMSiC1rwcc6bo1_500.gif)
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Post by: Jmc10 on May 25, 2013, 03:01 pm
I could make epic boss battles with this! :D
Title: Re: Graphics in the Platformer?
Post by: geoff on May 25, 2013, 03:02 pm
It won't work for weapons and powerups at this stage. I want to be able to release this without going insane. So, for now, just most blocks and walking baddies.
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Post by: Sploderepicbros on May 25, 2013, 03:02 pm
It won't do any harm at all if it's added, guys... it's just there.

Btw, when are you planning on getting this released, and is it just blocks that can be textured, or enemies and weapons too?
Title: Re: Graphics in the Platformer?
Post by: El Cielo Primo [Chloride] on May 25, 2013, 03:05 pm
Will there be a different graphic maker for this?
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Post by: alon on May 25, 2013, 03:06 pm
It won't work for weapons and powerups at this stage. I want to be able to release this without going insane. So, for now, just most blocks and walking baddies.

Alright. Thanks, this is really great!
Title: Re: Graphics in the Platformer?
Post by: swallowthesun on May 25, 2013, 03:07 pm
It won't work for weapons and powerups at this stage. I want to be able to release this without going insane. So, for now, just most blocks and walking baddies.
Hmm. So could I create custom designs and sceneries, Like mutant birds, witches, lions, etc.?
Title: Re: Graphics in the Platformer?
Post by: blackhole2 on May 25, 2013, 03:13 pm
Am I the only one who don't like it?
Sorry, but in my opinion, this will make the Platformer game more 8-bitting (or what) itself.

no arguing please
Title: Re: Graphics in the Platformer?
Post by: Rubber Ducky on May 25, 2013, 03:15 pm
Am I the only one who don't like it?
Sorry, but in my opinion, this will make the Platformer game more 8-bitting (or what) itself.

no arguing please
I don't like it neither... =/
Title: Re: Graphics in the Platformer?
Post by: geoff on May 25, 2013, 03:17 pm
Will there be a different graphic maker for this?

Nope.
Title: Re: Graphics in the Platformer?
Post by: railz on May 25, 2013, 03:18 pm
http://www.youtube.com/v/NMSmwPtl7IM?hl=en_US&version=3

Check it ouuuutttt.... coming soon.

Amazing. o: Can't wait.
Title: Re: Graphics in the Platformer?
Post by: El Cielo Primo [Chloride] on May 25, 2013, 03:19 pm
Am I the only one who don't like it?
Sorry, but in my opinion, this will make the Platformer game more 8-bitting (or what) itself.

no arguing please
Me neither.
Title: Re: Graphics in the Platformer?
Post by: geoff on May 25, 2013, 03:19 pm
For those of you who "don't like it," that's not constructive. If you have ideas on how to make it better, I'm all ears. But, simply posting "I don't like it" adds nothing to the discussion and brings everyone down. So, if you don't have something constructive to offer in this thread, please do not post.
Title: Re: Graphics in the Platformer?
Post by: geoff on May 25, 2013, 03:22 pm
P.S. With regards to the graphic editor, I'll be adding a larger size, 60 x 60px, to enable a higher resolution for character art. This size will not support animation in order to keep game file size manageable.
Title: Re: Graphics in the Platformer?
Post by: Dudki on May 25, 2013, 03:22 pm
For those of you who "don't like it," that's not constructive. If you have ideas on how to make it better, I'm all ears. But, simply posting "I don't like it" adds nothing to the discussion and brings everyone down. So, if you don't have something constructive to offer in this thread, please do not post.
I think it is good, since you will be able to make youself some unique scenery, bosses and tiles for your game.

My only fear is that it will get overused and people will start building games entirely out of graphics, causing massive lag, and also making it more like the PPG rather than Platformer.
Title: Re: Graphics in the Platformer?
Post by: sto4 on May 25, 2013, 03:22 pm
At first I was a bit on the fence, but when you placed the graphic on the player's head.... Avatar heads! I like this idea now, Platformer tributes can be so much better. :D
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Post by: Wind on May 25, 2013, 03:24 pm
Geofffff

 Hurry with the powerups/weapons xD

 I want magic and not sci-fi gunsssss
Title: Re: Graphics in the Platformer?
Post by: Poke579 on May 25, 2013, 03:24 pm
For those of you who "don't like it," that's not constructive. If you have ideas on how to make it better, I'm all ears. But, simply posting "I don't like it" adds nothing to the discussion and brings everyone down. So, if you don't have something constructive to offer in this thread, please do not post.
I have to say I'm indifferent about this. As a person who can't use the graphic creator, this will just make my platformers more bland. But for people who can use it, and for people who have historically made games with great scenery (CoughGrantCough), this will probably be a great, great update.
Title: Re: Graphics in the Platformer?
Post by: El Cielo Primo [Chloride] on May 25, 2013, 03:25 pm
For those of you who "don't like it," that's not constructive. If you have ideas on how to make it better, I'm all ears. But, simply posting "I don't like it" adds nothing to the discussion and brings everyone down. So, if you don't have something constructive to offer in this thread, please do not post.
I think you should create a new graphic creator. I say this because you do not know if the graphics will fit or be compatible with the enemies or blocks.
For example, if you make the graphic too big, only half of it will be shown.

Sorry for my grammar.
Title: Re: Graphics in the Platformer?
Post by: geoff on May 25, 2013, 03:29 pm
I think you should create a new graphic creator. I say this because you do not know if the graphics will fit or be compatible with the enemies or blocks.
For example, if you make the graphic too big, only half of it will be shown.

Sorry for my grammar.

Now that's more constructive, thanks.

Yes, I agree it will be a little awkward. I was concerned about it because the platformer is vector graphics and not blocky bitmaps. But, I'm thinking that if you publish the game in 8-bit mode it will blend together better. Plus, I like the look... it's kind of hilarious with those test graphics.

Also, I'll be enabling a higher resolution graphic and a little template overlay to show where the parts go for the "character kit"
Title: Re: Graphics in the Platformer?
Post by: Cyan on May 25, 2013, 03:30 pm
Omg Yes! Now I can use my own tiles for my games and not look at a whole list trying to find a similar one.
Title: Re: Graphics in the Platformer?
Post by: Tbremise on May 25, 2013, 03:31 pm
P.S. With regards to the graphic editor, I'll be adding a larger size, 60 x 60px, to enable a higher resolution for character art. This size will not support animation in order to keep game file size manageable.
Very cool. I can see you have been very busy Geoff. =D
Thanks for all your hard work.
Title: Re: Graphics in the Platformer?
Post by: railz on May 25, 2013, 03:32 pm
I think it is good, since you will be able to make youself some unique scenery, bosses and tiles for your game.

My only fear is that it will get overused and people will start building games entirely out of graphics, causing massive lag, and also making it more like the PPG rather than Platformer.

I don't entirely agree, I tried the PPG and its so confusing for me, to simply choose my graphic and drag it over an enemy, would be heaven compared to the PPG creator. I hope Geoff will further try to incorporate the graphics into Platformer, which I love so much. And I'll be able to add unique things to m new plat. Cursed Bay which would be terrific. I'm all for it, Geoff.
Title: Re: Graphics in the Platformer?
Post by: El Cielo Primo [Chloride] on May 25, 2013, 03:35 pm
Now that's more constructive, thanks.

Yes, I agree it will be a little awkward. I was concerned about it because the platformer is vector graphics and not blocky bitmaps. But, I'm thinking that if you publish the game in 8-bit mode it will blend together better. Plus, I like the look... it's kind of hilarious with those test graphics.

Also, I'll be enabling a higher resolution graphic and a little template overlay to show where the parts go for the "character kit"
Ok thanks. Sorry for not being constructive before.
Title: Re: Graphics in the Platformer?
Post by: King Jeremy the Wicked on May 25, 2013, 03:44 pm
Wow!  That must've been a major pain to code and all that.  Keep up the great work!

Also, I have some questions.

1. Is there an ETA right now?
2. Will this work for enemies, or just blocks?
Title: Re: Graphics in the Platformer?
Post by: TheBlueGuy21 on May 25, 2013, 03:45 pm
I have to say I'm indifferent about this. As a person who can't use the graphic creator, this will just make my platformers more bland.

This.

It's a great update and all, but it will completely suck for anyone who doesn't know how to make graphics.
Title: Re: Graphics in the Platformer?
Post by: blackhole2 on May 25, 2013, 03:45 pm
Yes, I agree it will be a little awkward. I was concerned about it because the platformer is vector graphics and not blocky bitmaps. But, I'm thinking that if you publish the game in 8-bit mode it will blend together better. Plus, I like the look... it's kind of hilarious with those test graphics.
This is what I wanted to tell with the '8 bitting mode' term.
And also, it would be a little bit strange. People use the platformer creator for mostly puzzling and tricky games where we don't need graphics. (except the RPG's)
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Post by: tobestertobes on May 25, 2013, 03:58 pm
This looks AWESOME!
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Post by: etxbear on May 25, 2013, 04:04 pm
I like the idea, but I have some questions and comments.

I like the 8-bit style and "vector style" (to quote you) graphic styles, but the idea of having them together makes me worry of the clash that might arise. Even if published in 8-bit mode, would the differing styles of graphics have much of a noticeable clash? I like that you're adding a 60x60 size to graphics that can be made for improved resolutions and reduced clash even at the expense of animation (which I don't mind; I've probably use this feature for scenery alone anyways), but even with that, if published in 8-bit mode, would there be a noticeable clash of graphic styles?
Title: Re: Graphics in the Platformer?
Post by: geoff on May 25, 2013, 04:04 pm
This.

It's a great update and all, but it will completely suck for anyone who doesn't know how to make graphics.

You can always use other people's public graphics.
Title: Re: Graphics in the Platformer?
Post by: geoff on May 25, 2013, 04:06 pm
I like the idea, but I have some questions and comments.

I like the 8-bit style and "vector style" (to quote you) graphic styles, but the idea of having them together makes me worry of the clash that might arise. Even if published in 8-bit mode, would the differing styles of graphics have much of a noticeable clash? I like that you're adding a 60x60 size to graphics that can be made for improved resolutions and reduced clash even at the expense of animation (which I don't mind; I've probably use this feature for scenery alone anyways), but even with that, if published in 8-bit mode, would there be a noticeable clash of graphic styles?

I honestly think that there will end up being some games where it will clash, and some games where it will work well. It all depends on the talent of the creator.

I think it's worth it just for the ability to create unique games and stories.
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Post by: alon on May 25, 2013, 04:08 pm
So, do we have an ETA yet?
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Post by: etxbear on May 25, 2013, 04:10 pm
I honestly think that there will end up being some games where it will clash, and some games where it will work well. It all depends on the talent of the creator.

I think it's worth it just for the ability to create unique games and stories.

Ok. Thank you for your time. Thank you for working on this for us, too. Expanding the creative potential of the users is the goal of Sploder if I'm not mistaken, and this will certainly help.
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Post by: Queen Probe on May 25, 2013, 04:34 pm
Wait a minute, is it released yet? If it is im not seeing it...
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Post by: vinnei3 on May 25, 2013, 04:38 pm
AWESOME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Post by: Transcendent on May 25, 2013, 04:39 pm
The ability to make the 8-bit graphics look like HD would be a unique feature.
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Post by: vinnei3 on May 25, 2013, 04:41 pm
 :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D
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Post by: Sonic234 on May 25, 2013, 04:44 pm
My life is complete.
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Post by: G1 on May 25, 2013, 04:59 pm
I like it.
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Post by: FatGuyWithABeard on May 25, 2013, 04:59 pm
Yeah! And then we can make our own backgrounds, too.
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Post by: liamnight on May 25, 2013, 05:00 pm
Thank you, Geoff  :D
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Post by: vinnei3 on May 25, 2013, 05:19 pm
that will be awesome
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Post by: lcraniuml on May 25, 2013, 06:00 pm
thats ridiculous
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Post by: Poke579 on May 25, 2013, 06:03 pm
Will this take over focus from the Arcade creator?
Title: Re: Graphics in the Platformer?
Post by: FatGuyWithABeard on May 25, 2013, 06:06 pm
Will this take over focus from the Arcade creator?
No, there's still a lot more stuff the Arcade creator has going for it. Like magic and jumping on enemies to kill them instead of stabbing or shooting them.
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Post by: Poke579 on May 25, 2013, 06:10 pm
No, there's still a lot more stuff the Arcade creator has going for it. Like magic and jumping on enemies to kill them instead of stabbing or shooting them.
For the time being I mean.
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Post by: JJS on May 25, 2013, 06:13 pm
At  first I hated the idea but with all of my graphics I realised I could make some cool things. Thanks.

Is there a way we can set an option though so that other people can't use my graphics? Just a thought.
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Post by: JJS on May 25, 2013, 06:16 pm
Oh and Geoff, will the level duplication button be coming soon?
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Post by: mrperson12999 on May 25, 2013, 06:22 pm
Finally, an addition to the Plat creator. This might get me on the MS more.
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Post by: kittysocks on May 25, 2013, 06:23 pm
Geoff, I have a quick question. When are we gonna switch to 24-bit color in the graphics creator?
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Post by: geoff on May 25, 2013, 06:55 pm
Geoff, I have a quick question. When are we gonna switch to 24-bit color in the graphics creator?

Not sure what you mean. The graphics creator uses 32-bit color.
Title: Re: Graphics in the Platformer?
Post by: FatGuyWithABeard on May 25, 2013, 07:00 pm
Not sure what you mean. The graphics creator uses 32-bit color.
I think he means smaller pixels.
Title: Re: Graphics in the Platformer?
Post by: Jmc10 on May 25, 2013, 07:04 pm
At  first I hated the idea but with all of my graphics I realised I could make some cool things. Thanks.

Is there a way we can set an option though so that other people can't use my graphics? Just a thought.
yeah, publish them as private.
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Post by: theravicale on May 25, 2013, 07:14 pm
I love you geoff :DDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD


Any chance that we could possibly create particle effects with graphics (This would allow for some games to just look amazing X2) along with editing the look of the player character?

Geoff, I have a quick question. When are we gonna switch to 24-bit color in the graphics creator?
Why would you want to get rid of the alpha channel? It's extremely useful.
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Post by: kittysocks on May 25, 2013, 07:31 pm
Not sure what you mean. The graphics creator uses 32-bit color.
OH. Ok, it looked 16-bit to me.
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Post by: Thebluefire2011 on May 25, 2013, 07:52 pm
Finally!
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Post by: Proxy on May 25, 2013, 07:55 pm
X
This is SO awesome, I could make it so the enimies have like my avatar as heads, lol. Excellent feauture, it will make games way more unique, in the platformer anyway.
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Post by: Guy the Dude on May 25, 2013, 08:08 pm
Yeah! That's awesome!
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Post by: lumberjay on May 25, 2013, 08:38 pm
Just... wow... This is incredible, and will definitely help bring me back to the mainsite more. I look forward to it's arrival.
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Post by: sto4 on May 25, 2013, 09:09 pm
Oh and Geoff, will the level duplication button be coming soon?
This and the reverse level door. :D
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Post by: Princess Matty on May 25, 2013, 09:12 pm
:o cool! Do you think you will be able to get graphics into power-ups and weapons?
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Post by: Eth on May 25, 2013, 09:21 pm
Tbh I'm half and half on this. I mean, I like the idea of having graphics but then it'll make the Platformer a lot like an infinite ppg. It looks good though.
Title: Re: Graphics in the Platformer?
Post by: Omega on May 26, 2013, 12:40 am
Is it just me, or did I see a sprite-sheet type deal with the thug's graphic?
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Post by: koolofduty on May 26, 2013, 01:19 am
:( nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
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Post by: theravicale on May 26, 2013, 02:01 am
One last question:

What sort of scenery blocks can they be added to (Backwalls, Lamps, owls, ect)?
Title: Re: Graphics in the Platformer?
Post by: Arcanus on May 26, 2013, 02:46 am
Brilliantly amazing!
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Post by: snailptile on May 26, 2013, 03:04 am
Epic
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Post by: bluesky051 on May 26, 2013, 04:33 am
This is going to be a big surprise for those who do not know this. Their boredom will be out of mind when this update is here!  :D
Title: Re: Graphics in the Platformer?
Post by: woodchuck on May 26, 2013, 07:06 am
I'm sorry to say this, but I don't really like this idea. I think it could ruin the game style. Although I do see some advantages nevertheless.
Title: Re: Graphics in the Platformer?
Post by: vinnei3 on May 26, 2013, 07:07 am
go away woodchuck.

this aint no private chat.
Title: Re: Graphics in the Platformer?
Post by: bluesky051 on May 26, 2013, 07:13 am
It kinda depends on what game you are making. :blank:
Title: Re: Graphics in the Platformer?
Post by: vinnei3 on May 26, 2013, 07:18 am
you go away, as well bluesky051.
Title: Re: Graphics in the Platformer?
Post by: Eyenstein on May 26, 2013, 07:22 am
you go away, as well bluesky051.
WTF did she do?! splode OFF
Title: Re: Graphics in the Platformer?
Post by: Eyenstein on May 26, 2013, 07:22 am
go away woodchuck.

this aint no private chat.
He's talking about the idea, dumbass
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Post by: vinnei3 on May 26, 2013, 07:24 am
your immature.
Title: Re: Graphics in the Platformer?
Post by: Dudki on May 26, 2013, 07:30 am
you go away, as well bluesky051.
your immature.
go away woodchuck.

this aint no private chat.
//_- How about you go away? People have the right to express their opinion. You're the one acting immature here.
Title: Re: Graphics in the Platformer?
Post by: mrperson12999 on May 26, 2013, 07:30 am
your immature.

Coming from a four year old....
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Post by: Poke579 on May 26, 2013, 07:38 am
On third thoughts, it looks good, but needs more cowbell
Title: Re: Graphics in the Platformer?
Post by: vinnei3 on May 26, 2013, 07:57 am
i got perma banned from APH so i joined here.
Title: Re: Graphics in the Platformer?
Post by: mrperson12999 on May 26, 2013, 08:05 am
i got perma banned from APH so i joined here.

Why am I not surprised?
Title: Re: Graphics in the Platformer?
Post by: vinnei3 on May 26, 2013, 08:05 am
get back on topic please
Title: Re: Graphics in the Platformer?
Post by: bluesky051 on May 26, 2013, 08:06 am
WTF did she do?! splode OFF
Umm...I'm a boy...:|
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Post by: vinnei3 on May 26, 2013, 08:08 am
erm.. is that personal?
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Post by: bluesky051 on May 26, 2013, 08:48 am
So when it will be released ,Geoff?
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Post by: Sree on May 26, 2013, 08:50 am
Wow. This is just EPIC!!!!!
Title: Re: Graphics in the Platformer?
Post by: Prince FFK on May 26, 2013, 09:23 am
I've got questions about this, here they are:

1. Maybe people will put on innapropriote graphics (I've seen them), what will happen?

2. I don't understand the putting a graphic as the baddie thing. Is it you put a graphic on a Thug and it still holds the bat thing?

3. Is there a "graphics available to use" place? Will it give you a "sorry, you can't use this graphic here" when you put a non moving graphic on a moving baddie?

4. I have this graphic and it's just a square, but it has colors that are moving (or something like this: (http://sploder.s3.amazonaws.com/gfx/gif/610770.gif)). Would I still be able to use it as a square?

5. Is this a lie?
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Post by: Wiki on May 26, 2013, 09:26 am
Looks quite impressive, indeed.
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Post by: Shadross on May 26, 2013, 10:53 am
WHAT IS THIS SORCERY?!
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Post by: Sonic234 on May 26, 2013, 11:14 am
In case someone else hasn't asked this already... Will we be able to make our character a graphic?
Title: Re: Graphics in the Platformer?
Post by: dragonlizard7 on May 26, 2013, 11:20 am
I... I can't... Contain my excitement! :D
Title: Re: Graphics in the Platformer?
Post by: 7grant2 on May 26, 2013, 12:55 pm
Thats insanely awesome.
Title: Re: Graphics in the Platformer?
Post by: vinnei3 on May 26, 2013, 01:55 pm
SUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEERRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR EEEEEEEEEEEEEPIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIICCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCC
Title: Re: Graphics in the Platformer?
Post by: Bahamut on May 26, 2013, 02:45 pm
Now that's more constructive, thanks.

Yes, I agree it will be a little awkward. I was concerned about it because the platformer is vector graphics and not blocky bitmaps. But, I'm thinking that if you publish the game in 8-bit mode it will blend together better. Plus, I like the look... it's kind of hilarious with those test graphics.

Also, I'll be enabling a higher resolution graphic and a little template overlay to show where the parts go for the "character kit"
So we get to build our own characters?
[....]ing saweeetuh!
Title: Re: Graphics in the Platformer?
Post by: Pythagoras on May 26, 2013, 02:45 pm
Do you have yo use em
Title: Re: Graphics in the Platformer?
Post by: vinnei3 on May 26, 2013, 02:58 pm
i will use bloons BFB and MOAB graphics for the vampire bats!
Title: Re: Graphics in the Platformer?
Post by: Wind on May 26, 2013, 03:06 pm
i will use bloons BFB and MOAB graphics for the vampire bats!

 Omfg
 I love BTD
 x3
Title: Re: Graphics in the Platformer?
Post by: vinnei3 on May 26, 2013, 03:07 pm
me too  :D
Title: Re: Graphics in the Platformer?
Post by: Vexation on May 26, 2013, 03:41 pm
I don't like the idea.

Reason: All the old games with no graphics and only the vectors you already have will stop being popular like what happened with the PPG.

Reason: I think a lot of people would take the themes out of the game, like "Destroy Mutant Justin Bieber" with a Rocky that has a JB graphic. People who make games like that would just see it as a more interactive PPG.

Also, with the whole sprite sheet idea I saw for the enemy, how would we know where to put stuff in relation to certain parts of the enemy? Like, "Hey, this head turned into the body! Hey, those shoes are where the arms should be!"
Title: Re: Graphics in the Platformer?
Post by: theravicale on May 26, 2013, 03:52 pm
I don't like the idea.

Reason: All the old games with no graphics and only the vectors you already have will stop being popular like what happened with the PPG.

Reason: I think a lot of people would take the themes out of the game, like "Destroy Mutant Justin Bieber" with a Rocky that has a JB graphic. People who make games like that would just see it as a more interactive PPG.

Also, with the whole sprite sheet idea I saw for the enemy, how would we know where to put stuff in relation to certain parts of the enemy? Like, "Hey, this head turned into the body! Hey, those shoes are where the arms should be!"
huh?
Title: Re: Graphics in the Platformer?
Post by: alon on May 26, 2013, 03:56 pm
I don't like the idea.

Reason: All the old games with no graphics and only the vectors you already have will stop being popular like what happened with the PPG.

Reason: I think a lot of people would take the themes out of the game, like "Destroy Mutant Justin Bieber" with a Rocky that has a JB graphic. People who make games like that would just see it as a more interactive PPG.

Also, with the whole sprite sheet idea I saw for the enemy, how would we know where to put stuff in relation to certain parts of the enemy? Like, "Hey, this head turned into the body! Hey, those shoes are where the arms should be!"

Geoff said there would be a template map to show you where the arms, legs, hands, and that stuff went... xD

Anyway, I think most old games will still be popular. And we'll just ban the "kill JB with JB grapik" games.
Title: Re: Graphics in the Platformer?
Post by: benno98 on May 26, 2013, 04:13 pm
Yes, finally, at last, graphics in the plat. Thanks big G.
Title: Re: Graphics in the Platformer?
Post by: bluecat2012 on May 26, 2013, 04:37 pm
I'm really hyped up for this big G. Nice work!
Title: Re: Graphics in the Platformer?
Post by: bluecat2012 on May 26, 2013, 04:45 pm
One of the reasons I like it is that when you need a character to talk you can have  proper graphic for it and not a dog,owl ect.
Title: Re: Graphics in the Platformer?
Post by: thesplodertroll on May 26, 2013, 05:23 pm
thats gunna be crap
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Post by: Pythagoras on May 26, 2013, 05:24 pm
Don't troll around?
Title: Re: Graphics in the Platformer?
Post by: thesplodertroll on May 26, 2013, 05:29 pm
nah i honestly think its going to b crap i mean graphics+plat dont mix ☆
Title: Re: Graphics in the Platformer?
Post by: blackstar7777777 on May 26, 2013, 05:30 pm
Add a poll
Title: Re: Graphics in the Platformer?
Post by: Wind on May 26, 2013, 05:42 pm
Guys
If you don't like it, don't use it.

 And Black, you have the best sig on this site <3
Title: Re: Graphics in the Platformer?
Post by: blackstar7777777 on May 26, 2013, 05:47 pm
Guys
If you don't like it, don't use it.

 And Black, you have the best sig on this site <3
Thanks :)
Title: Re: Graphics in the Platformer?
Post by: liamnight on May 26, 2013, 05:55 pm
I think 2013 is going to be a great year for sploder updates  ;D
Title: Re: Graphics in the Platformer?
Post by: duncanb on May 26, 2013, 05:58 pm
So Cool you must be an expert programmer
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Post by: trans301 on May 26, 2013, 06:23 pm
neato.
Title: Re: Graphics in the Platformer?
Post by: raquzzic on May 26, 2013, 06:25 pm
This may be a odd question, but with the ability to modify the graphical appearance of foes does this mean in the future we could edit the hp and damage properties of foes of is there something that makes customizability of that kind infeasible?

Like for instance, making a mongol who's graphics are replaced with some bleak, hooded figure that instant kills.

I at first was just thinking we'd only be able to use this to make scenery and blocks, the ability to customize foes and even the player genuinely surprised me since I didn't even know if that was possible to do.
Title: Re: Graphics in the Platformer?
Post by: Prince FFK on May 26, 2013, 07:37 pm
I've got questions about this, here they are:

1. Maybe people will put on innapropriote graphics (I've seen them), what will happen?

2. I don't understand the putting a graphic as the baddie thing. Is it you put a graphic on a Thug and it still holds the bat thing?

3. Is there a "graphics available to use" place? Will it give you a "sorry, you can't use this graphic here" when you put a non moving graphic on a moving baddie?

4. I have this graphic and it's just a square, but it has colors that are moving (or something like this: (http://sploder.s3.amazonaws.com/gfx/gif/610770.gif)). Would I still be able to use it as a square?

5. Is this a lie?
Just so he notices these.
Title: Re: Graphics in the Platformer?
Post by: bluesky051 on May 26, 2013, 09:59 pm
A bloons tower defense game...Interesting ^-^
It just all depends on what you are going to make!  :D
Title: Re: Graphics in the Platformer?
Post by: bluesky051 on May 26, 2013, 10:02 pm
This is my idea when it is released so don't copy it  >:(
A platformer that was trapped in a childish place that is endangered with evil toy bots!!  ;)
Title: Re: Graphics in the Platformer?
Post by: raquzzic on May 26, 2013, 11:03 pm
I can already see the games where everything is a black blob monster.

And there's no way to distinguish what is what even with a torch.

Oh the pain those inevitable kinds of game will be.
Title: Re: Graphics in the Platformer?
Post by: theravicale on May 26, 2013, 11:05 pm
I can already see the games where everything is a black blob monster.

And there's no way to distinguish what is what even with a torch.

Oh the pain those inevitable kinds of game will be.
Meh, nobody plays most of the ms garbage anyway.
Title: Re: Graphics in the Platformer?
Post by: raquzzic on May 26, 2013, 11:18 pm
I mean the black and white style games that sometimes do get featured.
Title: Re: Graphics in the Platformer?
Post by: ZimAnderzoon on May 26, 2013, 11:23 pm
Yeah, just like Azure
Title: Re: Graphics in the Platformer?
Post by: woodchuck on May 27, 2013, 01:45 am
go away woodchuck.

this aint no private chat.

Just my opinion.
Title: Re: Graphics in the Platformer?
Post by: railz on May 27, 2013, 02:32 am
Geoff, do you have a release date for the platform. graphics yet?
Title: Re: Graphics in the Platformer?
Post by: Eyenstein on May 27, 2013, 06:07 am
Umm...I'm a boy...:|
Sowwy
Title: Re: Graphics in the Platformer?
Post by: mitkoizi4 on May 27, 2013, 07:23 am
I don't like it.
I'll have to agree with milking. Expect a ton of games with blockhead killing a thug with a JB head.
Title: Re: Graphics in the Platformer?
Post by: mshaafay on May 27, 2013, 07:38 am
I don't like the idea.

Reason: All the old games with no graphics and only the vectors you already have will stop being popular like what happened with the PPG.

The old platformer is still popular. what difference does it make anyway?

Quote
Reason: I think a lot of people would take the themes out of the game, like "Destroy Mutant Justin Bieber" with a Rocky that has a JB graphic. People who make games like that would just see it as a more interactive PPG.
Just as with those who make games on PPG like this, the mods will take action. More work for us!

Title: Re: Graphics in the Platformer?
Post by: mshaafay on May 27, 2013, 07:40 am
I'll have to agree with milking. Expect a ton of games with blockhead killing a thug with a JB head.
Mods will ban him. Plus, I don't think people will hate JB as much now.
Title: Re: Graphics in the Platformer?
Post by: mshaafay on May 27, 2013, 07:43 am
Guys did you notice...

At 0:40, the graphic that is highlighted has the body parts in different places.  So that means there is a template!
Title: Re: Graphics in the Platformer?
Post by: mrperson12999 on May 27, 2013, 07:54 am
Guys did you notice...

At 0:40, the graphic that is highlighted has the body parts in different places.  So that means there is a template!

THANK YOU CAPTAIN OBVIOUS!!!
Title: Re: Graphics in the Platformer?
Post by: mshaafay on May 27, 2013, 10:07 am
THANK YOU CAPTAIN OBVIOUS!!!
Are you show-up-er-man? D:
Title: Re: Graphics in the Platformer?
Post by: koolofduty on May 27, 2013, 10:39 am
I'm sorry to say this, but I don't really like this idea. I think it could ruin the game style. Although I do see some advantages nevertheless.
same here
Title: Re: Graphics in the Platformer?
Post by: billu on May 27, 2013, 11:15 am
Geoff, I think this "graphics in platformer" thing will take away the platformer's originality. People will probably start using a large number of graphics made enemies, tiles, background walls etc, instead of using the original ones. I previously read that the platformer creator is 32-bit. But the graphics from the ppg which are like 8-bit or 16-bit will take away the 32-bit originality of the platformer creator. I am partially against the graphics in the platformer thing, but I thinks there should be a 32-bit graphics creator that will match with the platformer creator will not take away the platformers originality. I know a large number of people will be against me for saying this, but it's my opinion as well as some other peoples opinion too.
Title: Re: Graphics in the Platformer?
Post by: mshaafay on May 27, 2013, 11:22 am
Geoff, I think this "graphics in platformer" thing will take away the platformer's originality. People will probably start using a large number of graphics made enemies, tiles, background walls etc, instead of using the original ones. I previously read that the platformer creator is 32-bit. But the graphics from the ppg which are like 8-bit or 16-bit will take away the 32-bit originality of the platformer creator. I am partially against the graphics in the platformer thing, but I thinks there should be a 32-bit graphics creator that will match with the platformer creator will not take away the platformers originality. I know a large number of people will be against me for saying this, but it's my opinion as well as some other peoples opinion too.
The updated graphic creator will give a 60x60 field to draw in.
Title: Re: Graphics in the Platformer?
Post by: lionchef77 on May 27, 2013, 11:47 am
AWSOME I TOTALLY NEED THIS UPDATE!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Graphics in the Platformer?
Post by: billu on May 27, 2013, 11:50 am
The updated graphic creator will give a 60x60 field to draw in.

So when you use that 60 x 60 graphics creator, the graphics will look like the platformer creators graphics?
Title: Re: Graphics in the Platformer?
Post by: mshaafay on May 27, 2013, 12:00 pm
So when you use that 60 x 60 graphics creator, the graphics will look like the platformer creators graphics?
Not exactly, but if you try, it can. Plus, the point of the site is make games for FUN
Title: Re: Graphics in the Platformer?
Post by: theravicale on May 27, 2013, 12:27 pm
Geoff, I think this "graphics in platformer" thing will take away the platformer's originality. People will probably start using a large number of graphics made enemies, tiles, background walls etc, instead of using the original ones. I previously read that the platformer creator is 32-bit. But the graphics from the ppg which are like 8-bit or 16-bit will take away the 32-bit originality of the platformer creator. I am partially against the graphics in the platformer thing, but I thinks there should be a 32-bit graphics creator that will match with the platformer creator will not take away the platformers originality. I know a large number of people will be against me for saying this, but it's my opinion as well as some other peoples opinion too.
There is no difference in the bits, the bits=color depth. Why would you be against platformer graphics, you can ignore it if you'de like but it give me so much more ability to create things as I see them.
Title: Re: Graphics in the Platformer?
Post by: 7grant2 on May 27, 2013, 12:36 pm
I can already see the games where everything is a black blob monster.

And there's no way to distinguish what is what even with a torch.

Oh the pain those inevitable kinds of game will be.
That could be beautifully implemented if it was done in a fair way.
Title: Re: Graphics in the Platformer?
Post by: lionchef77 on May 27, 2013, 12:37 pm
who cares we want it geoff wants it sploder wants it i want it pie guy wants it derp wants it worms wat it earth wants it he wants it 8) troll face want it earth wants it then that update will happen we want it all
Title: Re: Graphics in the Platformer?
Post by: Princess Ody on May 27, 2013, 01:03 pm
Oh my god Oh my god Oh my god.  ;D

I wish I could give you 2,500 platinium awards for this but I'm no editor.
Title: Re: Graphics in the Platformer?
Post by: Cyan on May 27, 2013, 01:10 pm
Number 1 reason i like this.
Brings us back to the old days of avatars in the creator.
Title: Re: Graphics in the Platformer?
Post by: Prince FFK on May 27, 2013, 01:48 pm
I've got questions about this, here they are:

1. Maybe people will put on innapropriote graphics (I've seen them), what will happen?

2. I don't understand the putting a graphic as the baddie thing. Is it you put a graphic on a Thug and it still holds the bat thing?

3. Is there a "graphics available to use" place? Will it give you a "sorry, you can't use this graphic here" when you put a non moving graphic on a moving baddie?

4. I have this graphic and it's just a square, but it has colors that are moving (or something like this: (http://sploder.s3.amazonaws.com/gfx/gif/610770.gif)). Would I still be able to use it as a square?

5. Is this a lie?
Title: Re: Graphics in the Platformer?
Post by: mrperson12999 on May 27, 2013, 02:24 pm
who cares we want it geoff wants it sploder wants it i want it pie guy wants it derp wants it worms wat it earth wants it he wants it 8) troll face want it earth wants it then that update will happen we want it all

Do you even know how to speak English?
Title: Re: Graphics in the Platformer?
Post by: bluecat2012 on May 27, 2013, 06:54 pm
Do you even know how to speak English?
I think he's derping.... Or just hasn't got good grades in ELA.
Title: Re: Graphics in the Platformer?
Post by: Vexation on May 27, 2013, 07:01 pm
If we do this, can we have the vector graphics available for editing in the graphic maker? Say you just wanted a red-eyed thug.
Title: Re: Graphics in the Platformer?
Post by: lionchef77 on May 27, 2013, 08:47 pm
 >:( iam mexican i speak spanish i moved to austin tx 4 years ago
Title: Re: Graphics in the Platformer?
Post by: Master on May 27, 2013, 09:55 pm
wow!!!!!!!!!! thats epic!!!!!!  :o
Title: Re: Graphics in the Platformer?
Post by: Eyenstein on May 28, 2013, 10:17 am
THANK YOU CAPTAIN OBVIOUS!!!
THANK YOU CAPTAIN OBVIOUS
(Because it's obvious someone would say THANK YOU CAPTAIN OBVIOUS)
Title: Re: Graphics in the Platformer?
Post by: Thebluefire2011 on May 28, 2013, 10:19 am
I mean the black and white style games that sometimes do get featured.
Limbo?
Title: Re: Graphics in the Platformer?
Post by: bluecat2012 on May 28, 2013, 05:30 pm
Limbo?
Facepalm
Title: Re: Graphics in the Platformer?
Post by: lionchef77 on May 28, 2013, 05:39 pm
 ::) ::) ::) ::) so...??
Title: Re: Graphics in the Platformer?
Post by: Master on May 28, 2013, 05:39 pm
THANK YOU CAPTAIN OBVIOUS
(Because it's obvious someone would say THANK YOU CAPTAIN OBVIOUS)
Thank YOU CAPTAIN OBVIOUS

(Because it's obvious that someone would say THANK YOU CAPTAIN OBVIOUS to a person that said THANK YOU CAPTAIN OBVIOUS)
Title: Re: Graphics in the Platformer?
Post by: lionchef77 on May 28, 2013, 05:48 pm
YOU DID IT AGAIN THANK YOU CAPITAN...
Title: Re: Graphics in the Platformer?
Post by: Vexation on May 28, 2013, 07:46 pm
Thank YOU CAPTAIN OBVIOUS

(Because it's obvious that someone would say THANK YOU CAPTAIN OBVIOUS to a person that said THANK YOU CAPTAIN OBVIOUS)
Actually, it isn't obvious that someone would say THANK YOU CAPTAIN OBVIOUS to someone who said THANK YOU CAPTAIN OBVIOUS. It's actually new.
Title: Re: Graphics in the Platformer?
Post by: lionchef77 on May 29, 2013, 05:09 pm
it is true
Title: Re: Graphics in the Platformer?
Post by: billu on May 29, 2013, 05:38 pm
There is no difference in the bits, the bits=color depth. Why would you be against platformer graphics, you can ignore it if you'de like but it give me so much more ability to create things as I see them.

I am not trying to say that the platformer graphics creator should be taken away, but what I was trying to say was that the graphics creator should match the platformers quality. Or in other words, the ppg graphics creator allows people to create graphics that are like snes games for example. But the platformer creator is like the nintendo ds for example. now So the snes type graphics creator should be changed into the nintendo ds format. That's what I am trying to say. And I apologize because I don't know the meaning of "bits" somewhat.  :)
Title: Re: Graphics in the Platformer?
Post by: theravicale on May 29, 2013, 05:51 pm
I am not trying to say that the platformer graphics creator should be taken away, but what I was trying to say was that the graphics creator should match the platformers quality. Or in other words, the ppg graphics creator allows people to create graphics that are like snes games for example. But the platformer creator is like the nintendo ds for example. now So the snes type graphics creator should be changed into the nintendo ds format. That's what I am trying to say. And I apologize because I don't know the meaning of "bits" somewhat.  :)
That would be nearly impossible due to the Graphics Creator making  bitmap graphics, not vector graphics.
Title: Re: Graphics in the Platformer?
Post by: Vexation on May 29, 2013, 09:03 pm
That would be nearly impossible due to the Graphics Creator making  bitmap graphics, not vector graphics.
People good enough at making bitmaps could imitate vector graphics... like you...
Title: Re: Graphics in the Platformer?
Post by: Eyenstein on May 30, 2013, 05:47 am
Thank YOU CAPTAIN OBVIOUS

(Because it's obvious that someone would say THANK YOU CAPTAIN OBVIOUS to a person that said THANK YOU CAPTAIN OBVIOUS)
Thank you Captain Obvious!!!!!
(I knew that was gonna happen)